@mg,
Only pre-schooler fanboys like you can make horrendous predictions like-
1. WiiU WILL BE SOLD OUT EVERYWHERE!!!
2. WIIU THE KING OF MMOS!!
3. WIIU THE *INSERT PRAISE HERE*.
Keep blabbering kid. Unlike small kids like you, I have good control over myself, so I am leaving this thread. Not that it will stop you replying though. Keep replying using 300 consecutive comments.
Sorry for anyone reading his gibberish comments from now on. At least I wont read them.
@TEA
Good to know!
I used to go batshit mental in toys R us, never did find Geoffrey...
You gave: Captain N Gamesmaster a miss though?! ;)
If she ever unwraps the Wii:
Mario Galaxy 1 & 2
Warioware
Rhythm Heaven
Zack and Wiki
Zelda Skyward Sword
Should all create some great memories!
Also, Ni No Kuni on PS3 although she may have to watch ou play depending on age.
Oh, and I heard Amnesia : A Machine for Pigs is a good PC game for kids! ;)
@Dragon
Child : confirmed
Cheers for fucking up the discussion... Again...
I agree with michael power never ever dictated the most sold console, looking at each respective gen the less powerfull consoles graphics wise won, and the reason is because consoles also needs to bring something new to the table and multiple things that people want, and that is games, exclusives, added features like running new formats media like CD dvd, blue ray, connectivity, multiplayer, media things, price factor, good customers service, etc, it is a sum of its parts rather than graphics alone.
On that front i think the WiiU will do fine, but again also it will depend something of what the other two do, price will be a big thing, of course the other things like exclusives, services, online connectivity, etc, but price will also be a big issue next gen, if the other two will have high prices, then people will go for one of them and the WiiU, rather than the two of them if they were priced cheaped, which will hurt nintendo, but again is early to tell, we need to have all the cards on the table to make an accurate prediction
You missed Donkey Kong on that list Monkey ;) but now she doesn't have to unwrap the Wii cause we got Wii U which she likes. Maybe one day I'll bring the Wii to the office and try to catch up on the hardcore offerings of the Wii, but I'm back logged as it is man.
@TEA
Yes, Donkey Kong too... Although that game is crazy difficult... I've had to give it a break or I'd go mad! :)
Don't forget Trauma Center, good practice; she may become a Doctor!
Thats why I like Donkey Kong so much because its a challenge and with the wii mote its really good and feels natural. If Nintendo had more games on the Wii like Donkey Kong than EA sports fitness 1,2,3,4,ex,special edition,cheer leader edition, senior citizen edition, and etc than the Wii would be sitting right next to my PS3 and 360.
Wii U is though ;) Should have since 2006.....lets see if its sitting next to the PS4 and 720 in a few months.
wii was great. never was a fan of motion gaming but damn it did work well for nintendo. wii was perfectly timed. so is the wiiu now. some of the best games this gen have been on the wii. the ´hardcore gamer term´is a pile of crap mostly used by non hc gamers. a hc gamer plays all the great games....yes, also the teen rated ones if they are solid. kirby is hardcore you punks, pink hardcore! when will you ever learn that?
wiiu is fun, it´s timed well, it´ll do good in the long run. some third party ports will happen, some will be skipped. i think it´ll be possible to port the early nextboxps4 games to wiiu too because the graphical leap in the first year wont be too big. sure there wil be some outstanding first party games though graphicswise.
we´ll see what nintendo will do next when sony and ms have launched. i don´t see a new ps in 2013. maybe a nextbox...but hey i could be wrong. we´ll soon find out.
ms doesn´t really need more exclusives. they wont hurt, but i don´t think they need them to perform well. they got halo and gears. alan wake can expand. fable can get back to full glory if handled well...then maybe one or two fresh ip´s for the next gen. nextbox will be about social and online and services...that´s where ms will wow everyone the most with nextbox.
i wanna see what sony will do. they need to focus even more on their awesome ip´s. sony needs exclusives - just like nintendo really. they have awesome ip´s. they should stop to trash them though (resistance bs, lbp kart, uncharted card games)...the new sly game is the direction i want them to go with their classic ip´s.
give them love, let the old glory shine again by making games that have the classic feel but still feel fresh at the same time. that´s something nintendo has perfected and it´s something sony could learn from them
actually i feel like having a personal playstation revival atm. i am superhyped for ni no kuni, gow and last of us...that´s the sony """""M A G I C"""", those blockbuster games that just wow you untill your eyes bleed (then sometimes fail in the gameplay department though - cough - still great events - sony happenings- must play games and best of the best stuff)
what else for sony in order to have a great nextgen?...get rid of the annoying fanbrats, they give the company a bad rep.
@TEA
Wii U will be the best console for random exclusives. Graphics, PS4, multiplatform 720... Wait a minute, that's the same as this gen...
O_o
@Poly
But Sony is super cooooooooool! :)
Fanbrats is a good word actually!
Also, I'm kicking yo ass on Balloon Fight, if I win you'll have to send me over some nice beers! :)
ughh mg....i played Balloon Fuck for a while now...nothing worth posting yet. NOTHING. i suck at this game real bad. damn moving stars killing ma balloons, electrokilling me? M rated?
i mean it´s HARDCORE man! it almost makes me cry...
i had a great beer a few days ago that a friend recommended. "lammsbräu" hmmmm, was really good i swear.
nothing beats killing pints in a british pub in actual britishland though imho.
The problem with labeling gamers hardcore is number one it just isn't true. Secondly it just makes you sound like a pompus selfapointed blowhard. I watch TV, am I a hardcore TV viewer? It might make you sound cool amoung certian circles, but mostly it makes you sound like a tool.
Now if you actualy look at the games you play, that most people play you are going to see a wide range of games. Maybe you play CoD, FIFA, Deamon Souls, and Plants vs Zombies. Does the last game on that list mean you forfit your hardcore badge? If when you get done with the new DMC, and then toss in Pinball FX2? What if you play Civilization V for 6 hours solid, and then a few rounds of Peggle before bed? Or Minecraft? Or Castle Crashers?
What if before you get home, to your ps3, on the train, you play a few games of something on iOS or Andriod? What if you do play a bit of Nintendo Land with friends and family on friday nite?
This notion that the game you play defines your value as a gamer is pointless and childish at least. A gamer is a gamer is a gamer. And most gamers like games across all different generes. It makes you a well rounded gamer, I think.
Look at Acti. Thier current and fading horse is CoD. The up and coming next horse they are trying to build up is Skylanders. My point is that the devs/pubs don't care what you play, only that they can sell it to you.
The word hardcore gets thrown around at each new gen. Each platform is paying lip service to the early adaptors by proclaiming that their platform is going to be a hardcore haven. And normaly the tools eat it right up. You know who thinks they are hardcore gamers? Fanboys. It makes them feel special.
The reality is that most people just buy and play what they enjoy. They don't care what someone on the internet labels the game or them. And most of us buy so called casual games right along side of so called hardcore games. Trying to make out a destinction between games is again just silly fanboy drivel.
Years ago there wasn't a whole lot of choices out there for gamers to pick from. Today there is and most gamers don't limit themself.
"Wii U will be the best console for random exclusives. Graphics, PS4, multiplatform 720... Wait a minute, that's the same as this gen"...
Thats the loop I'm afraid Nintendo has put themselves into. Seriously when will they launch a console that will compete with the PS4 or 720 graphically/technically? 3 years after their launch making the Wii U 3 to 4 years old only but really its just 6 years behind the 360 and PS3.
Will the Wii-Z be on the same level of the PS4/720 or better in graphics? Nintendo has but themselves in a weird/interesting/risky posistion.
@OG
+1 Annoying fact: people don't step back and think about things you have said! Just keep saying the same shit.
This is why the fanboy stuff came up, it's very close to if you rattle someone's religious beliefs. They instantly go into denial mode... La la la can't hear you.
At the moment, I'm playing:
Organ Trail (iPad)
Juke Beat (iPad)
Binary Domain (360)
Ninja Gaiden 3 (Wii U)
Layton (3DS)
And I'm watching my girlfriend create a guide for games radar on Ni No Kuni (PS3).
Still get labelled a fanboy... What do?!
I give up really... :)
"(...) guide for games radar on Ni No Kuni"
thanks...will probably need it soon :)
og. well said again...seriously. but it´ll be like monkey says: lalalalalalaLOL
and monkey: no VITA? i knew you hate sony. that´s the prove yo nintendog!
I come into this thread thinking it would be about the possibilities of a Dead or Alive Wii U game.
You can understand my severe disappointment.
I hear ya MG, lol. You can't win man. And you and Poly are prolly right too. I gave up a bit ago. I just say my peace and go back to playing whatever it was I was enjoying.
Speaking of, Im gonna go play some Rift now ;)
@Poly
Yep she's almost finished! It's been hard (but fun!) work! :)
Great game as well, also watch Spirited Away to get yourself in the mood! That's a must if you haven't seen it!
Yep, no Vita. Well saying that, I do have a few kicking around. I mostly use them as door stops. No games you see! ;)
@AZ
You win the thread! :D
@OG
Rift?!
(Gathers pitch forks!!)
Have fun dude! )
@OG, I replaced the word "hardcore" with just "core" a long time ago, personally. To me, "hardcore" is someone who takes something excessively seriously (like, say, a professional gamer), whereas a "core" gamer is just someone who enjoys video games as a frequently active hobby.
If someone only plays one or two games, or doesn't take much interest in the games coming out beyond one or two major releases (FIFA, CoD), or simply doesn't consider video game a regular thing, that's my definition of a casual gamer.
And there's absolutely nothing wrong with being a casual gamer.
*gets lynched*
@mg: well, thank you for the hint again. no, haven't seen it. have seen princess monoke (?) whent that came out, in the cinema and a few other ones ...the...castle(???) actually loved them but forgot again. time moves so damn fast. i am totally in the mood for this now. will definitley watch it THIS weekend. see i am not a hardcore anime guy, just a casual ;)
@im: i agree. people are taking all this too serious anyway. i mean it's ok to have a passion for games but the competition stuff: i am hc u r casual. i am a skilled cod player u r a noob. i have a ps3 u only a kiddo wii...is just stupid. just enjoy what you enjoy. let others enjoy different stuff. where's the problem? i step into some of those traps too though sometimes. i can get mad if i sense these things. not worth it.
I agree Mike, I don't think of it the games they play but instead how dedicated they are to playing it/them. I know people that play Yahoo games everyday for hours a day. They are pretty dedicated gamers, not casual in their hobby at all. But they go against almost every label the industry wants to throw at us.
For someone to imply that WiiU(not you btw) doesn't have dedicated gamers is crazy. My brother inlaw was sold on WiiU on three things: Funky Barn, Madden, and the gamepad. Like me, he will put as much time into those two games as he would into almost any other games.
What people that label themself hardcore and then put down a system for lack of hardcore are essentialy doing is saying that they feel they are above other gamers that enjoy the kind of games on said system. And in this case WiiU. Despite WiiU have DarksidersII, AssCredIII, BlopsII, Madden, ZombiU, and at Launch. Those are often considered pretty core/traditional games. Again it just comes down to age old monster of fanboyism showing its ugly head.
You might want to go back and read what I actually posted OG.
I said they had burned a lot of their goodwill / reputation with hardcore gamers, and they most certainly have.
As for Nintendo having dedicated gamers... who the hell else do you think is buying it right now? They're selling to first adopters and Nintendo fans at the moment, and pretty much no-one else. This is why the sales were so massively front loaded, and so bad since then.
As I said, the Wii U launch is a long, long way away from the Wii launch, especially in terms of demographics.
^Man the wii was the most hardcore console made for nintendo 2 main mario titles, 2 zeldas , 2 metroid, that was the first time the big three series in their catalog released two times on the same console in a long time since the NES days, adding the return of donkey kong country and kirby, anybordy could safetly say and agree that the wii didnt burned the goodwill/repution of hardcore gamers, i am pretty happy with the nintendo core offerings.
@polygem Brand loyalty tends to be a sign of low intelligence. Humans are inherently lazy as well. Why bother to form your own opinions when you can get a marketing company to do the job for you?
@ManuOtaku: Those titles appeal to Nintendo fans, but you have to realise that not everyone is into Mario, Zelda and Metroid games. I for instance only really enjoy Mario games out of those, so for me all the console really offered was Super Mario Galaxy (which was excellent, but not enough) and a handful of other games. Where were the third party titles? Why is Nintendo making the same mistake again this time around by not working closely enough with those third parties?
In the 6 years the Wii was around before the Wii U there were a grand total of 14 90+ scoring games. Compare that to 43 on the PS3 and 46 on the 360.
@Pyschotext. Whoop dee doo. An aggregate site decides based on its entirely arbitrary scoring system that a certain number of games reached a pre-determined number.
What the hell do metacritic scores have to do with anything? They don't prove anything.
Thats true, I know not everybody will like all the nintendo series, but my point is they did catter to the hardocore or avid gamer with the wii, since the NES days there wanst 2 of any of nintendo series on the same console, that demostrates that nintendo made an effort to please the core or avid gamer, a mario lover will be pleased with two mario galaxys on their wii, a zelda fan will be pleased with 2 main zelda offerings, and so forth, they will recognize the effort, even if they do not enjoy all of them, although i do believe theres a lot of avid gamers that enjoy them all, like myself.
P.S believe or not this gen a lot of times, i found more joy with 8 rated games than 9 or 10, on all consoles for that matter, i think that is very subjective, doesnt mean a thing
The picture doesn't really look any better with 8 rated games (it actually looks a lot worse).
As for what difference it makes Mike, it fits with my personal experience of the consoles, and it's a pretty damn clear indication of the lack of third party support.
There are plenty of breakdowns out there on that one though, ones that don't involve scores but pure numbers.
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